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Governor Don Carcieri summed up his view of the state of Rhode Island on Tuesday night, January 22. He described how he wants to cut 300-million dollars from the budget for FY09. I received a few e-mails about the speech…
SO WHAT…...THE STATE WORKERS HAVE TO TAKE DAYS OFF WITHOUT PAY…BOOHOO..ALOT OF US DON’T GET PAID HOLIDAYS OR SICKDAYS..THIS STATE IS SO OUT OF CONTROL ON SPENDING…WHY WERE THE DOT WORKERS GIVEN NEW TRUCKS IN 2007???? WHAT SENSE DID THAT MAKE??? JUST AS THE FOCUS WAS ON 1000 PEOPLE LOSING THEIR JOBS THESE WORKERS PULL UP IN BRAND NEW TRUCKS AND SUV’S….I JUST DON’T UNDERSTAND WHERE ALL THE MONEY GOES TO…I PERSONALLY PAY 6300.00 IN TAXES, IT CRACKES ME UP WHEN MR.CARCERI SAID IN HIS SPEECH THAT THE BILLS ARE GETTING PAID THRU THE SAVINGS ACCOUNT…HE COMPARED IT TO US HAVING A SAVINGS ACCOUNT AND PAYING BILLS..HOW CAN WE HAVE A SAVINGS ACCOUNT WHEN THIS WONDERFUL STATE OF R.I. SUCKS EVERY LAST PENNY OUT OF THE POOR WORKING SLOB…CUTTING WELFARE TO IMMIGRANTS IS A WONDERFUL IDEA, CHECKING ON SECTION 8 HOUSING MAYBE?? I PERSONALLY KNOW SOMEONE WHO HAS SECTION 8, WORKS A FULL TIME JOB MAKING 17PLUS AN HOUR WORKS UNDER THE TABLE MAKING AN XTRA 500 A WEEK CASH,NOW HER DAUGHTER IS PREGNANT AND SHE IS GOING TO PASS HER CERTIFICATE TO HER DAUGHTER 19 YRS OLD VERY CAPABLE OF WORKING…DOES A LITTLE UNDER THE TABLE STUFF…??? UNNECESSARY MONEY GOING OUT..I ASKED THIS PERSON HOW DO YOU MANAGE TO BURN THE SYSTEM LIKE THIS..HER ANSWER…I KNOW SOMEONE WHO WORKS FOR SECTION 8 HOUSING..COM-ON START CHECKING INTO THESE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN ON THESE PROGRAMS FOR YRS AND YRS…GET THESE SPANISH AND OTHER FORIGNERS OFF OUR AMERICAN TAILS..THE WHOLE STATE NEEDS AN OVERHAUL…
I know I am naive and mostly uninformed about politics and how the Government works, so I am speaking from the heart. Can someone please explain to me why the people who can least afford it are the ones who aregoing to suffer most from the proposed budget cuts? What sacrifices are the wealthy asked to make? Why can’t our State Officals take pay cuts or pay a percentage of their medical coverage? I think that might save the State a few million. Am I wrong? By the way, nobody asked us if we would make the sacrifieces proposed, we are being TOLD this is what will happen. I thought I had a voice in my future. Signed worried and a little confused,
Jeanne S, East Providence RI
If the governor is trying so hard to help the RI economy why is he behind the Gateway Center at Quonset Point/Davisville? The industrial park was supposed to create good clean well-paying jobs, as is being done in their Kiefer Park section. The redevelopment of the park was not meant for $7 per hour wages at big box stores that don’t even meet the town’s requirements. This development violates the North Kingstown Comprehensive Plan, the QP Master Plan 2003, the State Guide Plan 2025 and the Davisville CNBC base closure plan of 1994. Does he think big box stores will provide good jobs? How much can you possibly make selling underwear and kitchen appliances? Where are his plans for extra schooling and/or better schooling to get persons off welfare and into a work force where they can make enough money to afford to live in RI?
There are always ways to cut the budget but taking it from the poor (the way he LOVES to do) is not the proper method. He needs to re-think his approach. Providing education and housing, healthcare and daycare is the path to getting people off welfare. Sex education and birth control help, too. Cutting benefits simply exacerbates an already overhwhelming problem. Wasting prime industrial land for the construction of stores that only pay minimum wage does not help the problem, either, and continually criticizing the poor helps no one.
And why does this governor always pick on state and municipal employees who earn far, far less than the private sector employees? He cited figures tonight that were hugely over blown with regard to pay and benefits, and consistently provides figures that are not true for the majority of state and municipal workers. His plan to cut 1,000 workers may sound wonderful to some, but it simply will not work as he presents it, and the upshot is that he saves perhaps 1/4 of what he’s telling us he will save.
Carcieri is ineffective and doesn’t get his message across because he’s too much of an elitist. A snob of the first rank. He should show more respect to women; the Lt Gov especially. He should show more respect to gays. And he should leave his religion in church where it belongs. RI was founded on the separation of church and state, yet he cannot grasp the concept.
Here are some of my suggestions for improvement on his part. If he wants to save money he shouldn’t be flying off to Iraq to support an unnecessary war. Let him stay home and pay attention to the average Rhode Islander’s day. Let him follow a state or municipal worker around and see what a day working for the taxpayer really involves. He should also drive himself around. This is a small state. He doesn’t need a state policeman wasting time acting as chauffeur. Let him get a compact car and pay for his own gas like the rest of us. If he wants to help the poor let him start a WPA project like FDR did. We could use an upgrade of our roads and bridges, water systems and sewers. How about a re-design of Rte 95 at Exits 9, 14, and 22???? How about an upgrade of the airport at QP, at least for UPS and FEDEX planes? Carcieri needs to cut his own staff and get rid of that spokesman (Jeff Neal?) among others. Rhode Islanders are beginning to resent that young man and Carceri shouldn’t hide behind him, anyway. If he wants to get the word out about something, let him say it himself. He should come out of the clouds and do a little more of his own personal one-on-one with the citizens of RI, instead of presenting pie in the sky speeches for methods of saving money that exist somewhere over the rainbow. There is a group out there of adult white males who will nod stupidly in agreement with him, but people with their feet planted firmly on the ground, and a brain in their heads, understand that most of what he said (while some may have made sense) simply won’t work in a state as small and territorial as RI. Carcieri needs to “dress for what his figure is, not what he wishes it was.“
There is one area, however, where he should spend a great deal more money. He needs a better haircut.
Kalula
My husband and I have listened to the Governor’s speech. As a Rhode Islander I agree with him that the budget needs to be cut, but as a state employee, I feel it should not be cut at my expense. All too often the first thing governors have done is balanced their particular problem on the backs of state employees—either with medical, furloughs, or cut in retirement benefits. I have been working for the state for 10 years. I was hurt about 3 years ago when the Governor cut my retirement benefits because I wasn’t totally vested. At that point in time if I could have quit and found a job in the public sector, I would have. But, I am at an age that it isn’t that easy for me to do and I had too much vested in my position to just throw away 8 years. Had I been a younger person I certainly would have.
This particular Governor has constantly maligned state employees in every way, shape and form. He seems to have no respect for the hard work we do, nor does he seem to care that we work under less than ideal working conditions. All the state employees I know are working way more than our job descriptions. People in our offices are retiring or transferring to other departments and those positions are not being filled. The people that are left in the office have to take up the work that the other person left. This is happening far too much. My particular office is working on a skeleton crew. We lost 3 people in a 7 people office. Each of us has had to take up the slack. My particular position was already down one person and now I have been added more work from the 3 people that left. When I filled a desk audit proving that I was working above and beyond my position I was told I was not. I was told it was in that clause that is in every job description that says “and other needed duties.”
My office is also working in unsanitary conditions. Our office has not been thoroughly cleaned since April 2007 when the last of our manual labor crew retired. Yes, the 4 people that are left are taking up that slack as well. We are vacuuming, dusting, emptying the trash and cleaning the toilets. But when we do this we are taking away from important more pressing jobs that need to be done. When I arrive at work on a winter snowy morning I am not even sure if our parking lot will be plowed or if the walk to the office door will be shoveled. Many times when I get to work I have to shovel the walk myself until someone else arrives to share the task. This is not in my job description, but if I complain I will probably be told it is in that “clause”. Do the secretaries in your office have to shovel the snow or clean the bathrooms, even those used by the public?
Several years ago when the Governor first started his “efficiency in Government” revamping many things in offices throughout the state, he did that in my office as well. He implemented a rate hike on one of our registrations that still has not recouped from the cost if initiating that rate hike. Between the cost of the hearings, meeting place, advertisements for the meetings and stenographers, etc, we have not even come close to coming even with all the costs we incurred in that rate hike.
As I said, I am a 10 year state employee. I do not make $61,000 a year as the Governor said the average state employee makes. I make $32,000 a year. When he was counting this average he counted in union and non-union employees. He counted in all those heads of departments that make well over $100,000 a year. Will salary people take this furlough also? . Is he going to take the furlough cut along with the employees? Is his office going to as well? See the records of how many in his office make over the $61,000 per year and he keeps hiring more for his office even though he says there is a freeze on hiring. Ask him how many of his people got approved for their desk audits.
I make less than if I worked in the private sector, but I do so because of the retirement plan and other benefits. Most state employees would be working in the private sector and receiving more everyday remuneration, but for most of us, the benefits were more important than the weekly pay. Is it fair that after 10 years, when I am close to thinking about retirement, that he cuts my retirement? Is it fair that I will be forced to work beyond age 65 because he feels that state employees are given too much retirement? I am in no way going to get (or even near it) the $250,000 that he currently makes in retirement each year. I will be lucky to get $10,000 a year from my state retirement and now he wants to even cut from that. My ten years have counted for almost nothing. Oh, and another thing—he never tells the public how much each state worker MUST contribute from their pay check each pay period towards retirement. We don’t have a choice but to give a certain amount. That amount really hurts when you are not making that much to begin with.
We had bottled water in our office because our office is used for public meetings, etc. Now we don’t have it as a cost cutting factor. It only cost us around $12.00 for the rental of the cooler, water and cups. Now we don’t even have a cooler. To get water in our facility we must use the bathroom sinks. I don’t believe that is sanitary and poses a health and safety issue. Also, because we are a public building we will now have to have our water tested. This water testing will cost the state around $400 per year. Our delivery of bottled water only cost about $144 per year. Where is the saving here? What I see is the state paying more to cut costs.
Before I close I just want to say that what I see from what this Governor is doing is just depleting the morale of the average state employee. I used to love to go to work. Now I have to drag myself in to work each day. I am tired of all work I have to do with never ending piles on my desk, on the chair next to my desk and on the table near me as well. Each day finds me getting more and more behind. Reports are not being written to the FEDS for grants received because of the time factor. The FEDS are reclaiming our grants because these reports are not getting written. We (the state) are losing money because people are not there who used to write these reports. We are loosing hundreds of thousands in grant money because the Governor decided the state had too many employees. Where is the savings here?
I could go on and on but I feel that you tend to be more on the side of the Governor and dislike state employees as well. It is a shame that the media focuses on the lazy ones and doesn’t talk about the ones that are doing a good, untiring, conscientious job.
Sincerely,
CD
Once proud, now tired state employee
Well, what a great amount of NOTHING we heard tonight.
He wants No new or raised taxes but the citties and towns are MANDATED to provide certain things that the state has always paid for. Where is the money supposed to come from?
Here in Coventry we are voting tomorrow on a bond thing they want 19.8 MILLION dollars 10 of that to go to our wonderful school committee and oh yeah the state is GOING to give us back FIVE million of that 10 NOT NOT NOT.
I really hope the people in this town paid attention to what was said tonight. I will tell you I am willing to bet that taxes here in Coventry will go UP AND UP AND UP. They won’t give us new taxes they’ll jus RE-EVALUTE our property like they have done twice in the last 18 months.
What a state.
Judith
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Posted by ( jim ) on February 10, 2008 at 11:59 am
It is always the same thing here. First of all the state should be run like a business. Pay and benefits for employees should be looked at closely. The first thing to go should be pensions. Just like the airline industry did for it’s workers, stop all contributions immediatley. what’s there is there, when it runs out, oh well. A 401k employee funded plan should be implemented. Let these people work in the private sector to really see how things work. Their strong sense of self entitlement would be gone in a flash. they are commodities, just like any other employee anywhere. Manyof us in the private sector lost pensions, vacation, benefits and large amounts of pay, why should we be asked to fund those things that we don’t have? What makes these people feel that they are owed anything? Let their pay be dictated by private sector comparisons. They say they are underpaid…please, Get real and work with the rest of us for a week….what a wake up call y0u’ll get. And why are we funding social program after stupid social program that has no effect. I do not envy the rich, nor do I pity the poor. I’m tired of paying for deadbeats. stop this useless funding and handouts. Slam the borders shut and enforce immigration laws to the letter, The news loves to show families torn apart by deportation…guess what…you’re illegals…send the whole bunch back. We are a nation of immigrants, but our grandparents had to have a sponsor, a place to live and a job to come here. If you were sick or a criminal, you got sent back….too bad…get over it..until these, among other things are addressed and fixed, there will be more people leaving R.I. Incidentally, the news stories of last month about the state losing 3800 people….who do you think left….those that contribute to the social system, or those that are a burden to it..
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Posted by ( RImom ) on January 28, 2008 at 3:19 pm
State of the State.
During the last election The DON said that we had a surplus of funds during his reelection champaign. Mr. Fogarty said that we had a deficit. The DON gave the wealthy a $300 million tax break. Lo and behold, right after he was elected, he declared a $309 million deficit. (maybe he needs to take away that break) Seems to me he “misinformed” the great people of this state. Now, again he is misinforming the people. He states that the average state worker makes over $61,000 a year. Well that average would be alot less if he took his friends out of the six figure jobs that he created for them, qualified or not. The real average of a state worker is under $50,000. Most state employees pay for their health care, they pay 100% of their retirement each week out of their pay. Also, does the DON not realize that state workers pay taxes too? He misinformed people that most state workers earn more than the private sector. I dare some one to call any large trucking company and ask what the starting rate for a driver is. Ask them how much their employee has to pay for health insurance? Call anyone in the private sector and ask what their employees make. How come the governor took his pay increase as allowed by law but yet wants state employees to take days without pay? Did he forget that he is a state employee? He is living quite comfortably. Why did he need the payraise. Tell me why he needs to drive around in a Lincoln SUV….why not a kia or something? This governor has misinformed the people of this state for too long. Maybe we should have allowed the Narraganset’s their casino. What’s one more when we already have two? It would have meant more revenue for the state. Maybe next time a single mother will run for governor…I am sure she would know how to balance a checkbook and pinch pennies. We should have known better when we chose to elect someone who worked for 2 companies that went belly up. I for one am tired of this guy trying to balance the budget on the backs of most of the the hard working state workers. No, I am not a state worker but I know quite a few of them and have spoken with them. I even know what their W-2’s state for income.
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Posted by ( walter ) on January 27, 2008 at 10:12 pm
I know one thing, in private business when things are bad, the workers are cut and I bet the state workers could care less. I think it is high time this happened to the state workers and maybe we will find out we are better off. If anyone read the figures in the journal about the 3% cost of living clause the state workers have on their pensions, you will really find out how we are being screwed over. Take a figure and keep compounding 3% over say 15 years and you will be surprised Try a $37 thousand pension for 15 years and compare that to yours, if you have one that is.I know I have a pension and I nor anyone I know gets a COLA.
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Posted by ( walter ) on January 27, 2008 at 10:01 pm
I am so sick of hearing everyone blame the Governor, if evryone would paid attention to the government, you would see, the big problem is the legislature. They are the culprits here, they pass the laws and appropiate the money and work the deals. I love it, they spend our money and we re-elect them everytime. You folks who vote for these thieves are the morons, you get what you deserve. Take a ride down to South Prov. and you will think you are in a foreign country, the illegal immigrants and the slackers are breaking the social system and who do we blame, of course the governor. I guess the governor is to blame for all the unwed mothers and the illegal children we are supporting. Maybe if the state and city workers were not encouraging this type of behavior to keep the beaurocracy growing(Social workers)it would not be such a problem. we have the minority caucus running their mouths off constantly about these poor people, they advise people how to screw the system, their political careers depend on it and we go after the governor for not wanting to raise taxes. I can see by the intelligence of the people who whine, why we are in such a fix.
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Posted by ( Zuke ) on January 27, 2008 at 6:16 pm
If we entrust somebody to use our money responsibly and they go on a reckless splurge; worse yet borrow more and say we our responsible for the debt; isn’t that fraud ? Its not the union worker that spent our money. Lets hold the legislators responsible. No new or raised taxes good! Don’t shake down Ma when she’s coming back from the grocery store and GI makes a call to let her know how the long war is going.
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